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The topic can be found here: https://forums.whatthetech.com/index.php?showtopic=130795&view=getnewpost

 

- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104389/microsoft-windows/the-case-against-windows-10-anniversary-update-grows.html

Aug 4, 2016 - "Given the massive testing and repeated refinement that brought us Windows 10 Anniversary Update, youd think the rollout would proceed with few debilitating problems. But youd be wrong. From common installation problems to minor irritants to significant data destruction, reports of problems are mounting up. You should consider dodging the update until Microsoft irons out the worst difficulties...

Microsoft hasnt yet delivered a Cumulative Update that installs on all machines, so it shouldnt come as any surprise that Anniversary Update installs trigger a wide variety of failures, rollbacks, flakey Universal Windows programs, and error codes such as 0x80070020..."

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No kidding, did a lot of work!

 

The biggest issues are systems that freeze up during an upgrade and leave the system useless, in some instances catastrophic data loss..

 

Some folks attempted full installs and were unable to activate then to get on the phone with Microsoft tech is a joke.

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I think there have been many complaints.

 

Microsoft hasnt yet delivered a Cumulative Update that installs on all machines

OK, is that meaning the worse is yet to come?

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I've had 2 computers, not mine directly but by marriage and birth, fall prey to Win 10. So far they installed fine but neither of my relatives were very happy to have the OS installed without their direct permission. Of course, it was my fault.

 

Perhaps someone (who's name starts with a J and ends with a T) with all of the relevant data (which MS Updates to avoid) should start and sticky a post on how to dodge the Win 10 install.

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Perhaps someone (who's name starts with a J and ends with a T) with all of the relevant data (which MS Updates to avoid) should start and sticky a post on how to dodge the Win 10 install.

LOL

 

I could copy and paste here but their already displayed at WTT

https://forums.whatthetech.com/index.php?showforum=30

 

MS Security Bulletin Summary - May 2016

pay attention to post #4 Posted 25 May 2016 - 03:53 PM

and

MS Security Bulletin Summary - June 2016

 

heres another good read

https://forums.whatthetech.com/index.php?showtopic=130795

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only thing i need to know about windows 10, is never let it get anywhere near any of my pc's. :laughing:

can't remember what tech site i was reading but one of the staff/writers decided it was time to upgrade all his pc's/laptops and out of the 4 machines he had only 1 installed without any problems.

 

there's loads of irate people who lost valuable data during the upgrade and seems like there's loads more this time around with the anniversary updates.

 

one things certain anyway, windows 10 will never get installed on any of my machines, not even in a vm so i can help others with a problem.

 

i simple don't trust an os that doesn't let me turn off things and phones home by design, i like to at least think i have 100% control of my os even if i may not, with windows 10 though you have little to any control over the what the os and microsoft can and can't do on your hardware, like install updates and phone home.

 

:b33r:

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When I started reading that we could disable GWX controls, avoid a month or two of updates, I thought now I can get a few updates for security

and avoid these headaches but

Now their saying that an Anniversary Update is still to come....

 

makes me wonder....if I ain't got windows 10 updates I'd be safe, you reckon?

I never did any system readiness tools and updates that I know of

 

don't think so.

I want to see this update come out and go into action, you think you might hear some screaming?

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The amount of time I have wasted over the years due to MS is beyond belief. To avoid Win 10 surprises I look up every single KB listed for every single update presented to me. Extremely annoying tedious process to avoid the [expletive] [another expletive] [OK just finish this with a lot of expletives]

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I think many were excited to think they could get a free Windows 10.....yeah!

Now, with what we see, many are ....................oh no!

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There are also certain strategies involved to get sales back up, Fear tactics in a sense saying version 7 or 8 is not secure, upgrade to 10 to secure your pc, so obvious :facepalm:

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Windows 10 is the new ME. Pure 100% stuffed with spyware to slow your system to be the slowest operating system Microsoft has built to date. I read somewhere that Microsoft say's it's the last Windows they are going to build and build upon it. If your going to build your own system for good benchmarks don't use 10. Use 7 or 8 and not 8.1. 8.1 is where they did the same thing by putting spyware and tracking cookies in it like 10. Although 8.1 is still faster than 10, Try to go with 8. Linux and Ubunto is faster than them all but it would be nice if they could make it a little more user friendly like Windows. You can install Linux Ubunto next to your Windows operating system and choose which one you want at start up, or put it on a separate drive. It's nice to have both as there aren't a lot of programs you use on Linux as we are all used to using on Windows.

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The phone home stuff is a nonissue anymore. http://www.ghacks.net/2015/08/14/comparison-of-windows-10-privacy-tools/Pick one and use it.

don't you believe it.

 

yes those programs limit what's sent but nothing stops windows 10 from phoning home unless you have a machine incapable of connecting to the net. :- http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/

 

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I'll buy a Windows 10 machine, if I really want it ... not upgrading to it tho' :yucky:

:lol: Though must admit have long since upgraded three of the machines in my household to W10...but still prefer W7 personally! ;)

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:lol: Though must admit have long since upgraded three of the machines in my household to W10...but still prefer W7 personally! ;)

Couldn't agree with you more!

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FYI...

 

Win10 'Anniversary Update' woes continue

... Problems with last weeks Anniversary Update keep piling up, and solutions remain elusive

- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3104999/microsoft-windows/windows-10-anniversary-update-woes-continue.html

Aug 8, 2016

 

- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/08/windows_10_anniversary_update_is_borking_boxen_everywhere/

8 Aug 2016

 

Block forced Windows 10 updates

- http://www.infoworld.com/article/2970172/microsoft-windows/block-forced-windows-10-updates-using-a-metered-connection.html

 

Enable Metered Connection to Delay Windows 10 Updates

- http://lifehacker.com/enable-metered-connection-to-delay-windows-10-updates-1723316525

 

>> http://www.guidingtech.com/48828/delay-disable-mandatory-updates-windows-10/

 

>> http://www.howtogeek.com/223864/how-to-uninstall-and-block-updates-and-drivers-on-windows-10/

"... If you want to temporarily prevent Windows from automatically downloading and installing any updates, you can do it without using the above tool to block updates. Just set your current Internet connection as metered and Windows wont download updates while connected to it at least until you tell Windows the connection isnt metered anymore."

 

> http://www.howtogeek.com/224471/how-to-prevent-windows-10-from-automatically-downloading-updates/

 

:ph34r: :ph34r:

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So, I not the only one having problems :) Away from my main machine three weeks and it doesn't work--Bonkers: blue screens, reboots over and over, blah, blah.

 

Does Windows show that the Anniversary update was installed? Where? Mine just says Windows 10 Pro under computer Properties.

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So, I not the only one having problems :) Away from my main machine three weeks and it doesn't work--Bonkers: blue screens, reboots over and over, blah, blah.

 

Does Windows show that the Anniversary update was installed? Where? Mine just says Windows 10 Pro under computer Properties.

Hopefully we can answer that soon, cause I don't know.

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Does Windows show that the Anniversary update was installed? Where? Mine just says Windows 10 Pro under computer Properties.

 

 

I understand that you would like to view all your installed Windows updates on your system. Follow the steps on how to view installed Windows updates:

  1. Right click on the Start Menu and select Control Panel.
  2. Now select Programs and features.
  3. From the left side of the page select the option View Installed Updates.
  4. Now you will see the complete list of all Windows updates which is installed on your system.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-update/where-to-find-windows-10-updates-list/3e0e1b3a-e44a-4aa2-a012-2f9415d2f1d5?auth=1

 

this may be useful :- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12387/windows-10-update-history

 

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Does Windows show that the Anniversary update was installed? Where? Mine just says Windows 10 Pro under computer Properties.

 

  1. Right click on the Start Menu and select Run
  2. Type WinVer and click OK
  3. Version 1607 (OS Build 14393.51) is the Anniversary update.

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Thanks, Indy.

 

Shoot. Mine is a long ways from there:

 

Version 1511, Build 10586/545

 

Seems to be working much better--had to make a Win 10 disk and fix the startup. Wonky AMD drivers, I believe.

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FYI...

 

MS16-098: Description of the security update for Windows kernel-mode drivers...

- http://www.infoworld.com/article/3107306/microsoft-windows/microsoft-admits-to-distributing-windows-printing-bugs-in-kb-3177725-and-kb-3176493.html

Aug 15, 2016 - "... Microsoft's latest Patch Tuesday bug appears to affect Vista, Windows 7, 8.1, RT 8.1, as well as Server 2008, 2008 R2, 2012, and 2012 R2. More than that, it appears to clobber all versions of Windows 10. In other words, if you applied the latest cumulative update to any version of Windows 10, your printer won't work right...

Microsoft has admitted to distributing the bug, but there's no indication when it will issue a fix..."

* https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/kb3176493-for-windows-10-and-kb3177725-for-windows/1280fc29-68ff-4328-83b2-e42704633262?auth=1

Dan Mattson - Microsoft: "... we are actively investigating this issue and have updated some of the KB articles involved with a 'Known Issues' section:

"After you apply this security update and you print multiple documents in succession, the first two documents may print successfully. However, the third and subsequent documents may not print."

Links: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3177725

- https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3178466

If publicly available information on this topic changes, we will provide an update here as well."

 

:ph34r: :ph34r:

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I have 1511 but I learned years ago not to update Windows until they at least debug it a tiny bit. I have my lappy backed up on a USB drive. I'm ready to just try to download and install some Linux. Did openSUSE skip 13.3 and go to leap42? I have 64-bit now, should I go for it?

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