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I'm thinking about putting together a new desktop computer soon, as all I have is a couple old laptops that are starting to fall behind.

 

However, the last computer I built had Raid 0 with 2x 40Gb, 512MB ram, and something like an AMD 2500+. As you might guess, it's been a while and I'm quite out of the loop. I'm lacking in interest to re-learn what's hot and what's not, so I come for advice.

 

I don't need to be able to overclock, and I don't need to score a billion points on 3DMark...I just want something that's going to be quite speedy. I do play games now and then, but it's things like Sim City, Roller Coaster Tycoon, and Madden NFL, not Doom or things like that. When I do play, though, I like to crank the graphics up and have it run nice and smooth.

 

I'd probably go with Windows 7 as the base OS (so I can play games and get better driver support), but then run VMWare with Ubuntu on top as my primary OS (I don't like dual booting, so sue me). That's my setup now and it runs very well.

 

What do you guys think? I'd also like something nice and quiet...flashing lights and the such are nice, but not necessary.

 

Cost depends...no more than $1000 for sure. To be honest, I'm not sure how much this is going to cost me anyways.

 

Edit: If you want to go to Newegg and build the whole thing, that's fine...but individual part suggestions are welcome as well.

Edited by bacterozoid

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Thanks guys - that's helpful info.

 

I hopped on Newegg last night and just put things together I thought would be nice (without worrying about compatibility) and my final price was spot on with yours, Kram.

 

It's good to know what kind of cost I'm looking at and that my vague ideas match up properly.

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I made a couple changes, which are easier to make when I have an example for compatibility comparison. See any downsides to the above setup with the following changes?

 

I would run these in a RAID 0 config...I just simply don't need 500GB of space, so I figured I could save some money here. The only downside was the cache size decrease, I think.

2x 160GB 8MB Cache

 

I didn't like the reviews on the other card, but this one seemed to be generally quiet and cool.

Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit

 

No real reason for this switch other than the price difference.

Sunbeam PSU

 

Given the savings on the above, I can squeeze in a copy of Windows 7...since I'll need that...running XP just wouldn't do right.

Windows 7

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I don't mind ATI or nVidia, I just picked a card that got good reviews. I'm not exactly sure what Crossfire is, either. It seemed to me like I might not need it.

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Need it, nope. It's like SLi with nVidia video cards, just trowing it out there since a good Crossfire board isn't a bunch more $.

 

Oh and the hard drive...I would go with the single WD Black drive over the two drives you selected, can always add another one later.

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I suppose that's true - would you say the 32MB cache would beat out a RAID 0 setup at 8MB cache?

 

If one 500GB is roughly the same cost and going to be faster, then I imagine I'd go down that road.

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I wouldn't say it would be faster. I pulled a couple 250Gb WD AAKS 16mb cache drives out of my daughters pc and put in a single 750Gb WD Black and the system feels the same and more quite. I never did like those 250Gb WD for some reason though.

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Ok, that's probably what I'll go with. I've got another question (sorry, they keep coming to me as I look into this).

 

What about going with a Quad Core [http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115057] instead of a Dual Core? I'd keep the price the same, but obviously have to downgrade on the clock speed.

 

I made the plunge, though. I sold my old laptop, putting the iMac and other Laptop up for sale next. That, combined with the TV I sold should give me close to enough.

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Unless you're using the extra 2 cores 50% of the time it would be slower. The cpu speed is slower and the L2 cache is smaller. Plus it uses more power and would run hotter, although if you purchase the Zalman cooler I listed that would not be an issue.

 

MHO is quads are way over rated, unless you actually use the core, such as in folder or something like that.

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Ok, thanks Kram! As soon as I can sell another computer my wife's going to let me order the goods! I appreciate your help on this - I'll be sure to post some pics when it's all said and done.

 

Edit: Here's what I'd like to do:

 

* G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB)

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

* Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache

* ZALMAN CNPS 9700 NT 110mm 2 Ball Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler

* GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard

* Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s

XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

* SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW

Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous

 

+ Case, but still debating on that one.

 

I put a star on the ones you suggested. It's probably overkill for what I do, but I can't help myself. I say that I can spend less on some components, but then I get to looking and decide that I should really put the money into them because I want it to be awesome, and then I do upgrades...oh well.

Edited by bacterozoid

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Just a couple suggestions. Save $10 and don't buy the AS/5, the Zalman comes with good thermal compound. Also take another look at the vid cards, nothing wrong with the one you selected, but look for one with free shipping and the $10 saved on not buying AS/5 and you may find something better.

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i can build one with that cpu, 6gb ddr3 gskill ram, am3 asus motherboard, an hd 5750, corsair 650 psu, dvd drive and case for around $1000. :tup:

 

here's the list...

 

case:- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16811119196

 

hard drive:- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16822136320

 

motherboard :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16813131603

 

ram :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820231223

 

power supply :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16817139005

 

processor :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16819103692

 

operating system :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16832116762

 

video card :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814131331

 

dvd-rw :- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16827151197

 

newegg lists it all at $1011.91 for me.

 

not the best of the best everywhere but overall i think a very good system. :tup:

 

:b33r:

Edited by terry1966

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Not bad at all terry :tup:

 

But that board doesn't use triple channel memory so he could save a little more on that price with this memory once they get it in stock.

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16820145252

 

I've seen some test scores of late that these ATi 5750 cards are not that great and the card he had picked may actually be better.

 

EDIT: Oh and your os choice was the same as the hd link.

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oops fixed link.. :blushing:

 

its the ultimate 64bit win 7

 

didn't notice the board never ran triple channel :blushing: so would probably upgrade it to one that did for a few more bucks but if needs be lower the os to a home version(last resort tho) to afford the upgraded motherboard.

 

only reason i'd prefer the hd5750 is because it'll run anything anyway and also works with dx11.

 

:b33r:

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I like that setup better. :tup:

 

You know I was actually surprised at the end cost of both systems. I thought the price would be lower.

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