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My biggest concern with MSE is that it purports to replace your existing AV & AS tools (excluding SpywareBlaster), that I am comfortable with Avast!, and that if I am to replace my AV/AS tools with MSE, I need to have a good track record of successes with it. I've come to trust Avast!, although I'm not entirely certain how well it does to keep those bogus AV/Security applications from getting on a person's computer but that could be typical of most of the AV/AS applications in existence. Maybe I should start a thread about MSE and see how many success stories come to light. IOBIT's Security 360 as well... -kd5-

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Decided to try 360 on 2 computers, set everything to industrial strength, we'll see how it goes. So far I've had to give several apps permission to run, kind of like a firewall. Hope it doesn't get to be too much of a PITA. I can well imagine most customers wouldn't know what to do if they were prompted for some kind of action, they'd probably call me... :rolleyes: -kd5-

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Decided to try 360 on 2 computers, set everything to industrial strength, we'll see how it goes. So far I've had to give several apps permission to run, kind of like a firewall. Hope it doesn't get to be too much of a PITA. I can well imagine most customers wouldn't know what to do if they were prompted for some kind of action, they'd probably call me... :rolleyes: -kd5-

 

 

 

If you'll go into options and turn it down to recommended, you won't have to worry about that anymore.

 

 

 

:Texan:

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I put MSE in a clean install of W7 rc just to check it out, went surfing to some bad neighborhoods, a few pages refused to load, but I do not know if it was MSE blocking or something else. I did manage to pick it a trojan and surfed some more after that, This is a slide show of my results:

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Joe...mview=slideshow

 

I am not saying that I think MSE is great or good, but it did appear to work in this case...I think much more needs to be reviewed before I make any final decisions, mostly because of the reputation M$ has for being weak

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If you'll go into options and turn it down to recommended, you won't have to worry about that anymore.

 

 

 

:Texan:

I put MSE in a clean install of W7 rc just to check it out, went surfing to some bad neighborhoods, a few pages refused to load, but I do not know if it was MSE blocking or something else. I did manage to pick it a trojan and surfed some more after that, This is a slide show of my results:

http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a291/Joe...mview=slideshow

 

I am not saying that I think MSE is great or good, but it did appear to work in this case...I think much more needs to be reviewed before I make any final decisions, mostly because of the reputation M$ has for being weak

 

Thanks guys! I turned 360 down to Recommended, we'll see how that goes... :tup:

 

One thing I can confirm is that 360 doesn't seem to slow down the browser like Spybot does. -kd5-

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I'm assuming you probably wouldn't want to run SpywareGuard alongside 360? -kd5-

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MSE does not interfere with SpywareGuard, SpywareBlaster, SuperAntispyware, or MalwareBytes' Anti-Malware.

 

I have been testing it ;)

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Decided to install 360 on my own computer alongside SpywareBlaster and SpywareGuard, so far they seem to get along with one another just fine, at least my computer hasn't screamed at me or crumbled into a heaping pile of wreckage... :yikes: -kd5-

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Sunbelt Software CEO, Alex Eckelberry did a review of MSE:

http://www.sunbeltsecuritynews.com/A5JWU0/...Thoughts-on-MSE

 

I am interested in following MSE and it's development, it looks competitive with other freebie a/v's currently out there but I'm not holding my breath just yet

 

I don't mean to be hijacking your thread Kd5, but for a freebie application to install for people this does look like a possibility

Edited by Joe C

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I'd be interested in following MSE's development as well, but to trust a new M$ product to replace a tried and true antivirus solution on customer's computers at this stage in its development is kinda risky. I'd be very interested however to see how this application pans out.

 

I very much appreciate everyone's followthrough and feedback on this and all the other applications mentioned in this thread... :) -kd5-

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My biggest concern with MSE is that it purports to replace your existing AV & AS tools (excluding SpywareBlaster), that I am comfortable with Avast!, and that if I am to replace my AV/AS tools with MSE, I need to have a good track record of successes with it. I've come to trust Avast!, although I'm not entirely certain how well it does to keep those bogus AV/Security applications from getting on a person's computer but that could be typical of most of the AV/AS applications in existence. Maybe I should start a thread about MSE and see how many success stories come to light. IOBIT's Security 360 as well... -kd5-

 

My opinion of the bogus AV/Security applications is that most of them are a test to see what does get through. It is almost at the point now where it is seen as an inconvenience and it reminds me of the view on spam.

 

Scroll through this blog and look at the Virus Total results for some of the threats found in the wild. They are generally at the end of the blog post.

 

http://garwarner.blogspot.com/

 

I am undecided about MSE because when I tested it, this is what concerned me.

 

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums...b4-2381c567a52a

 

Joe C has already pointed out the Sunbelt blog post above which had some interesting remarks in it (no email protection).

Edited by faith_michele

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yup, looks like M$ has spy net permanetly enabled, but it probably doesn't collect as much data from you as taking a pc pitstop test does would it?

 

more and more people don't use the email applications on their pc anymore, as it is becoming popular to use an on line email, some folks are not even aware that they have an email program on their pc's. Email security software should still be a requirement tho.

 

I would love to get a win antivirus/fake security 2009/2010 malware on my test box in order to check out how MSE would handle it, but it seems that when I want to find it I can't

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I have seen 2 of those bogus AV/AS/Security apps so far that have completely disabled all of the legitimate security applications on the computers in question and have prevented any scans from removing it by preventing legitimate security apps from running at all. While there may have been lengthy HJT procedures for their removal, I would not have felt comfortable with anything less than a format & reinstall. Trust me, you would not want to purposely infect yourself with these unless you were prepared to wipe and start over... :cr@sh: -kd5-

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That is a test box, I have no problems with a format on it....There's really not much of anything on it to start out with because I just formatted and put a clean install on it yesterday

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I would love to get a win antivirus/fake security 2009/2010 malware on my test box in order to check out how MSE would handle it, but it seems that when I want to find it I can't

 

Joe, take a look in your hosts file ..... choose from there :P

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IOBit Security 360, SpywareBlaster, and SpywareGuard all seem to get along very well on my computer. On customer's computers I'm running Avast!, SpywareBlaster, SpywareGuard, and 360 (along with SUPERAntiSpyware for an alternative scanner). I feel pretty confident I've done about all I can for real time protection for my customers, it will still be up to them to surf safely. All in all, I think I've found a winner with IOBit Security 360... :) -kd5-

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Joe, take a look in your hosts file ..... choose from there :P

thanks Jacee, need to get the url's from my main pc because the test box doesn't have much on it

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