psicon Report post Posted October 6, 2007 If i wanted to boot an ubuntu system into runlevel three, how would i do that from the boot menu? Thanks, -myk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duanester Report post Posted October 6, 2007 (edited) type linux 3, i thnk thats it, i tried it and beleieve it worked, i hope im not leading you to try something useless Edited October 6, 2007 by duanester Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duanester Report post Posted October 6, 2007 or you can select recovery mode and type telinit 3, this will take you there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXenXx Report post Posted October 6, 2007 Why do you want to get to runlevel 3? By the way, it should be noted that in Debian/Ubuntu there is no difference between runlevels 2-5 (in fact, at least on my Debian machine, the default runlevel is 2). If you simply don't want X running, boot up normally and switch to a tty with something like CTRL + ALT + F3. Login and kill gdm/kdm (sudo killall gdm, or sudo killall kdm should do it). If you simply just don't want X starting up by default at all, remove your /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psicon Report post Posted October 6, 2007 honestly, i was just curious.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tito Report post Posted October 7, 2007 honestly, i was just curious.. Hehe, Suse stops people understanding the runlevels. Switching to Runlevel three won't make a blind bit of difference. If you really wanted to do it, you can telinit 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psicon Report post Posted October 7, 2007 i guess what i was curious about was, if for whatever reason your X-session was so effed up that you were not even able to use a virtual terminal, how would one boot up to run level 3 with the purpose of editing the xorg file. I used to have to do this in Suse. My Kubuntu Gutsy install on my laptop is working fine, but I just like to learn stuff, i guess... Never needed to use runlevel3 on here, but if i wanted to..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Report post Posted October 7, 2007 Hehe, Suse stops people understanding the runlevels. Switching to Runlevel three won't make a blind bit of difference. If you really wanted to do it, you can telinit 3. How does SuSE stop people from understanding runlevels? Honestly I don't understand why you say the things you do, as they make no sense at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXenXx Report post Posted October 7, 2007 i guess what i was curious about was, if for whatever reason your X-session was so effed up that you were not even able to use a virtual terminal, how would one boot up to run level 3 with the purpose of editing the xorg file. I used to have to do this in Suse. My Kubuntu Gutsy install on my laptop is working fine, but I just like to learn stuff, i guess... Never needed to use runlevel3 on here, but if i wanted to..... Psicon, I didn't mean to sound so snooty, sorry about that. You can always either use CTRL + ALT + F<1-5> to switch to a virtual terminal, or you can just straight kill X with CTRL + ALT + Backspace. If neither of those works, you could boot up in single user mode. Suse's use of runlevels makes sense in a server environment, but for the everyday desktop user it's just confusing IMO. Not to say they're without purpose, I don't think many people know or care about them in which case it really doesn't matter, but I definitely think it's a little overwhelming telling a newbie to "change runlevels" when all they really need to do is kill X. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Report post Posted October 7, 2007 Well using different runlevels has been what "Linux" has been about since the very beginning, and most Linux distributions refer to using runlevels. Not sure how that has anything to do in particular with SuSE. It is pretty much the standard way to switch into different "runlevels". Runlevels are far more then virtual terminals. They refer to the different levels the operating system (ie:kernel) runs at, with each level starting or using different services. Doesn't seem to me that SuSE is confusing. It seems to me that a few folks either don't understand what a runlevel is, or they are confused about the purpose of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tito Report post Posted October 7, 2007 How does SuSE stop people from understanding runlevels? Honestly I don't understand why you say the things you do, as they make no sense at all. Because they think runlevel three means linux with no desktop. when I boot runlevel three it is my ordinary setup without folding@home running, I don't need to kill folding to install an NVIDIA driver! Psicon: Runlevels are just different instances of the startup scripts. Suse doesn't have GNOME/KDE startup scripts in runlevel three. Ubuntu does have gnome/kde scripts in runlevel three, there isn't really a runlevel that is linux without XORG. You can make one though, if you go to the runlevel folders (like runlevel 3 for example) and change the scripts so that they don't start KDE then your system will work like Suse does. Like I said above, I have edited my runlevel three folder so that it doesn't run folding, which is useful if I have lots of compiling to do. You could edit your runlevel 4 so that it starts without the KDE power manager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Report post Posted October 7, 2007 Again I ask what all that has to do with "SuSE", as this is not SuSE specific behavior, but is the standard in the great majority of Linux distributions. What you just described certainly isn't the most common method of runlevel 3. In fact it isn't common at all, but looks to be the one that is confusing because it isn't what most users of any other main stream distribution would expect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tito Report post Posted October 7, 2007 Again I ask what all that has to do with "SuSE", as this is not SuSE specific behavior, but is the standard in the great majority of Linux distributions. What you just described certainly isn't the most common method of runlevel 3. In fact it isn't common at all, but looks to be the one that is confusing because it isn't what most users of any other main stream distribution would expect. All the people that come from Suse think runlevel three is synonymous with no X Server. I'm not saying it is Suse's fault, that is just the way it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duanester Report post Posted October 7, 2007 personally i run all sorts of apps in 3, it just isn't as purdy, no big deal, i don't think it matters with any linux distro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruce Report post Posted October 7, 2007 All the people that come from Suse think runlevel three is synonymous with no X Server. I'm not saying it is Suse's fault, that is just the way it is. fault? OMG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tito Report post Posted October 7, 2007 fault? OMG I think you'll find I said it wasn't a fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
