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#1 H@ns

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 04:25 AM

I have seen LOTS of HijackThis logs from people who're running AVG and who're HEAVILLY infected with viruses, worms etcetera...

For example:

O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Update Machine] winupdt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Update Emulator] kern-mxe.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] msconfg.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [NVIDIA Video drivers] video_32sD.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Microsoft Features] ms32cfg.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WSSAConfiguration] wmmon32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [WindowsRegKey update] svchostc.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update Machine] winupdt.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Msbb.exe] Msbb.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update Time] wuam.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update Emulator] kern-mxe.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Update] msconfg.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [NVIDIA Video drivers] video_32sD.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [Microsoft Features] ms32cfg.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [WSSAConfiguration] wmmon32.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\RunServices: [WindowsRegKey update] svchostc.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update Machine] winupdt.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update Emulator] kern-mxe.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Update] msconfg.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [Microsoft Features] ms32cfg.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [WindowsRegKey update] svchostc.exe


This is from a Dutch guy who has the PAID version from AVG!!!

That's the reason I don't recommend AVG to anyone...

(PS: all those entries are related to nasty viruses.....)

Edited by H@ns, 11 August 2004 - 04:25 AM.


#2 J-P IT

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 04:27 AM

Here you can find some tests with known AV's:
http://www.rokop-sec...cle.php?sid=494
http://www.claymania...sts-trojan.html

( http://www.camagazin...713/la_id/1.htm )

Make your choice ;)

Edited by J-P IT, 11 August 2004 - 04:30 AM.


#3 ikebut

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 08:16 AM

I use AVG....no problem here win98 se

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 08:22 AM

Maybe no problem's but we're talking about how many virusses it finds :).

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 08:37 AM

Maybe this guy is right about AVG
read about AVG testing Many people like it,but if it doesn't do it's job,what good is it??

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 09:03 AM

That's what we mean :). I like Norton AV but it isn't one of the best too..

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:06 AM

Gentlemen, 'round these parts we like our AVG. Works great! I use it and have no viruses, nor do I go places that are known to give me viruses. Yes, I occaisionally run the online tests from Panda and so forth. No viruses. I highly recommend AVG to anyone! Uses less of my computer too! ;)

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#8 H@ns

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:16 AM

That's your opinion, not mine... And maybe that's only so because you don't visit "nasty" sites... If you should do that, you are infected as soon as could be possible, believe me..

Edited by H@ns, 11 August 2004 - 10:29 AM.


#9 J-P IT

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:18 AM

I could run without AV and get no virusses at all. I know what I'm doing. But when you don't you should have a good AV.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:24 AM

Maybe this guy is right about AVG
read about AVG testing Many people like it,but if it doesn't do it's job,what good is it??

Thanks J RAM, I'd been looking for that review. I found it most useful when I first read it, but unfortunately did not save the link. It's saved now... ;)

The other review posted (http://www.claymania...sts-trojan.html) was dated 2001, don't feel nearly as comfortable with a review that old. And the other (http://www.rokop-sec...cle.php?sid=494), while dated 2003, is difficult for the average user to comprehend.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 10:26 AM

When it comes to free virus scanners I would rather recommend Avast than AVG. I too think that AVG sucks.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 12:24 PM

I use it and have no viruses

how would you know if it didnt detect them?

It consistently detects only a little over half the viruses in the wild. If it doesn't find everything it's supposed to, then how do its users know if it's doing a good job?


If you read the posts around here about people who need help with virus's they say that they have AVG and it found a virus but couldnt remove it. Then they do a scan and avg says the system is clean....but in 5 minutes the virus warning comes up again. Consider yourself lucky if it even finds anything.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 02:50 PM

And maybe that's only so because you don't visit "nasty" sites...

I do when i'm testing spyware/virus programmes Avg....any Good? and it's served me well. :)

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 03:44 PM

I've seen to many viruses in computers from users of AVG that I CANNOT say that AVG is "good" or maybe "the best"

Edited by H@ns, 11 August 2004 - 03:46 PM.


#15 J-P IT

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 03:47 PM

The Best? Do you have hard test results for that? Not only user experience counts (it's important, true) but tests are important too.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 04:45 PM

I have used AVG for several years now and it has been a good workhorse, but with reports and evidence showing it to be not as good as other options I am beginning to change my mind, I've had a few occaisions where something got through or it couldn't deal with something, I put that down to the fact no one A/V is infallable, but since my last nasty that nothing could find which was only cleared with a low level format and a cmos reset I have not been running an A/V, I've used online scans a couple of times and all is good, being here learning about all the various protection has helped me massivley, but I think I wont be reccomending it anymore myself either, I can't slate it, it's served me very well over the years, but new things come out and every once in a while you re-evaluate certain things, and I think my time is now for a new A/V, probably tempted towards panda TBH. :erm:

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 05:01 PM

I have not been running an A/V, I've used online scans a couple of times and all is good

Online scans cannot catch something that has already d/loaded onto your system.
If you don't like AVG, fine, get yourself another onboard virus scanner.

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 06:35 PM

I was fooled by test results, I admit I thought NOD32 was the best there was..I was proven wrong..The same can be said about AVG or any other AV..The main thing I find is use the one that lets your machine run smooth,then do on line scans once in awhile..You always see people complaining about Norton,the reason is so many people use Norton..I believe out of all the free AV's ,AVG would fall in that category ..These tests were performed by people knowing the importance of not having a controlled environment ...I'm sure they could perform the same tests and have different results. 1a) MKS_Vir 2004 - 321/321 0 Missed - 100% 1b) eXtendia AVK - 321/321 0 Missed - 100% 2a) Kaspersky 5.0 - 320/321 1 Missed - 99.70% (with Extended Database ON) 2b) McAfee VirusScan 8.0 - 319/321 + 2 (2 found as joke programs - heuristically) - 99% 3) F-Secure - 319/321 2 Missed - 99.37% 4) GData AVK - 317/321 4 Missed - 98.75% 5) RAV + Norton (2 way tie) - 315/321 6 Missed - 98.13% 6) Dr.Web - 310/321 11 Missed - 96.57% 7) CommandAV + F-Prot + BitDefender (3 Way Tie) - 309/321 12 Missed - 96.26% ETrust - 301/321 20 Missed - 93.76% 9) Trend - 300/321 21 Missed - 93.45% 10) Avast! Pro - 299/321 22 Missed - 93.14% 11) Panda - 298/321 23 Missed - 92.83% 12) Virus Buster - 290/321 31 Missed - 90.34% 13) KingSoft - 288/321 33 Missed - 89.71% 14) NOD32 - 285/321 36 Missed (results identical with or without advanced heuristics) - 88.78% 15) AVG Pro - 275/321 46 Missed - 85.66% 16) AntiVIR - 268/321 53 Missed - 83.48% 17) Antidote - 252/321 69 Missed - 78.50% 18) ClamWIN - 247/321 74 Missed - 76.94% 19) UNA - 222/321 99 Missed - 69.15% 20) Norman - 215/321 106 Missed - 66.97% 21) Solo - 182/321 139 Missed - 56.69% 22) Fire AV - 179/321 142 Missed - 55.76% 23) V3 Pro - 109/321 212 Missed - 33.95% 24) Per_AV - 75/321 - 246 Missed - 23.36% 25) Proland - 73/321 248 Missed - 22.74% 26) Sophos - 50/321 271 Missed - 15.57% 27) Hauri - 49/321 272 Missed - 15.26% 28) CAT Quickheal - 21/321 300 Missed - 6% 29) Vir_iT - 10/321 311 Missed - 3% 30) Ikarus - Crashed on first virus. - 0%

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Posted 11 August 2004 - 06:54 PM

I like Norton but I know his lacks.

30) Ikarus - Crashed on first virus. - 0%


Omg.. nice AV

You always see people complaining about Norton,the reason is so many people use Norton


Same problem with windows en IE ;)

Edited by J-P IT, 11 August 2004 - 06:57 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2004 - 07:13 PM

The main thing I find is use the one that lets your machine run smooth,then do on line scans

Well said, nothing else need be said.

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